What derby did you watch this weekend? What are you seeing out there? Anything new?
I didn’t plan my weekend around derby, so I only got to watch most of the second half of the Rose City home game (Guns N Rollers vs. High Rollers) and a little bit of Victoria at the Big O.
What struck me, especially after watching the Rose City game, is how huge penalties are under this rule set. It used to be that if you beat a team by 100, that meant you were significantly better. I’m not sure that’s the case anymore. It seems harder and harder to rank teams using score alone, just at the time the WFTDA is using score-based rankings.
Okay, maybe that seemed obvious before, but it seemed especially apparent after watching two teams you know fairly well. Any given night, the outcome could have been different, but on this night, one team beat the other by a margin of more than 2:1.
By the way, new rankings came out today. Any thoughts about that?
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VICTORIA!
Yeah, that was pretty much my weekend. I caught Victoria’s games against WoJ and Wasatch, and I was mostly just excited at what an achievenment it was for the VRDL to be competitive at that level.
Aside from this weekend, the only bouts I’ve watched under the new rule set have been local ones. Penalties certainly made a difference, but at VRDL’s home bouts it was, er, a different kind of difference – the second home bout of the year saw three skaters ejected for racking up seven majors. Apart from the WoJ/Victoria bout this weekend, I’ve only watched one bout that had a margin over 100 points. But even considering all that – power jams under this rule set certainly can turn a game around fast.
It’s interesting how that works – you would think there would be fewer ejections without minors. Are people playing a more physical game? Is it track cuts or other penalties that were increased under the new rules? Or are there more major calls because impact is being called differently?
Where are the refs? Ya’ll reading this?
First I want to say I’m a rules/strategy nerd. I also see the point you are making and agree to a degree. Yes penalties have an impact on any game. However, I don’t feel that the new rules contribute to more penalties. In fact I feel there are overall less penalties for many skaters. The new rules has put a focus on penalties and how to use them to a team’s advantage. It seems more teams are training to force penalties on the opposing team. For instance how can a team get a cut called on an opposing skater/jammer, hopefully not training on how to flop when barely being tapped to force a backblock because that’s lame. In the Guns N Rollers/High Rollers bout track cuts were the biggest penalty given (HR 11 cuts, GNR 5 cuts). Teams are now practicing how you can get the opposing team on a blocker/jammer disadvantage and how they can monopolies on that. Or if the Jammer goes to the box how can you get the most out of that power jam. On the flip side teams are also working on how to deal with penalties. How can you stop the bleeding when your jammer goes to the box and the other team is doing a sausage? Strategies are being formed based off of penalties and how to deal with them. By the way in the GNR/HR game the penalties were nearly equal, HR had 26 minutes in the box and GNR had 20 minutes.
What I saw during this weekend’s games was that regardless of the amount of penalties there was always one team who could manipulate that situation to their advantage. During the WOJ/Victoria game both teams had exactly equal amount of time in the box, though Victoria gave Wheels 10 power jams. WOJ was really good at holding back the jammer when they were in a powerless jam and even prevented the Victoria jammer from ever getting out of the pack a few times. Even with Victoria doing a sausage and WOJ being down a blocker or two the Wheels blockers were able to hold the Victoria jammer, even hitting them out and forcing them back 20 or more feet. The large score difference during the GNR/HR game was due to the HR not being able to take advantage of their power jams. GNR kept strong walls and HR allowed their jammers to fend for themselves unsuccessfully. High Rollers also only got lead jammer 15 times total where as GNR got lead 28 times and HR jammers went to the box a total of 8 times where GNR jammers only went 5. HR would man up on GNR but the GNR blockers were very good at recycling forward. HR needed more offense for their jammers this particular game but instead continued to try and hold 1 GNR skater back. GNR has obviously been working on walls and when 3 of them were on the HR jammer they were usually able to hold them back or knock them out of bounds forcing either a cut or the jammer to have to go back at least 20 feet. GNR also took full advantage of their power jams and used the sausage for nearly each of them.
I think the other issue is a team’s refusal to change up their strategy and line ups. You see this all the time at all levels of game play. A team continues to send out the same jammer who obviously isn’t able to get through the opposing teams walls. Instead the bench is convinced that eventually that jammer is going to have a breakthrough but it doesn’t come. Just because an amazing jammer is amazing doesn’t mean they can get through every wall or that they won’t have an off game. Give them a few tries then see which of your other jammers have more success. If said jammer gets butt hurt over not getting enough game play then they obviously can’t see that they are being ineffective and don’t care about what is best for their team. If taking the front at the start of the jam isn’t working change it up. 3-1 not doing it for you, change it up! The team that can adapt to getting stuck is the team that will overcome. I saw this happen with Victoria at the Big O. They would be down by nearly 60 points by the half and it seemed like a wash. Then they would change it up and buckle down and each time bring it back. The opposing team would keep with their original strategy as it worked just fine for the first half but Victoria figured out their weaknesses. It would have been better if Victoria had changed it up sooner, not allow the other team to pull so far ahead, but they still got the job done.
So I think that penalties certainly contribute to score spread but mostly because teams are training to take advantage of those moments. Teams need to be together and smart on the track. Skaters also need to be ok in different rolls and with potentially not going out every other jam. It comes down to what you want for your team. Do you want more time on the track or do you want your team to win a game? Also the bench staff needs to listen to their skaters or be able to see when a skater is having an off game.
True score spread doesn’t always determine how good a team is but it does show who is playing the smarter game that day.
I love you, Hells.
Just to get a little mathematical quibble out of the way – I wouldn’t characterize 26 to 20 as nearly equal – that’s 26% higher for the High Rollers.
Really, I was making broad generalizations based on several games I’ve seen this year, and using that particular game to make a point. .
I agree that penalties aren’t the only issue at. play here, or in any other game. But a few years ago, we weren’t getting 20-25-30-point power jams that often, let alone 35-40-45-49-point jams. It’s all about taking advantage of these situations, and teams are doing it better than ever now.
Remember that HUGE power jam by Kitt Turbo at Nationals in 2008? That was 19 points. http://www.derbynewsnetwork.com/2008/11/2008_wftda_nationals_complete_recaps
True, 2008 is a lifetime ago in roller derby.
Or are teams just exploiting power jams better now, in conjunction with the new rule set? Is it an effect of the new rule set? I don’t know. That’s why I like talking about it on the internet. I also like talking about it over beers, but I can’t drink beer right now. Maybe I should be talking about this over fizzy waters. Mmm, fizzy water.
Hey, I think we agree with each other!
I can’t wait to see some more Rinxter stats and games to see if scores get higher. They have been creeping up, just comparing those 2008 Nationals scores to 2013 Champs scores: http://wftda.com/tournaments/2012/championships/schedule